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been demonstrated to occur, the ureters can function as

reservoirs of disease and cancer cell dissemination could

occur from spillage. In our institution, we have observed

unusual cases of peritoneal carcinomatosis occurring

within 3 mo after cystectomy in one such patient with

multifocal CIS of the bladder and ureters. In order to avoid

this, we routinely clip ureters in cases with CIS despite the

risk of short-term creatinine and potassium elevation

postoperatively.

Although the findings of these studies still warrant

further investigation, it is somewhat reassuring that recent

reports have found that early recurrence rates have

improved over time, indicating that not only technical

factors, but surgical experience is also contributing to the

phenomenon observed

[5]

.

Conflicts of interest:

The authors have nothing to disclose.

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Niranjan Jude Sathianathen

*

, Badrinath R. Konety

Department of Urology, University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, MN, USA

*Corresponding author. Department of Urology, University of Minnesota,

420 Delaware St SE, B563, Minneapolis, MN 55455, USA.

Tel. +1 6603340774.

E-mail addresses:

niranjan19@gmail.com , nsathian@umn.edu ,

(N.J. Sathianathen

nsathian@umn.edu

).

http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.eururo.2017.07.047

© 2017 European Association of Urology.

Published by Elsevier B.V. All rights reserved.

Re: Robot-assisted Laparoscopic Prostatectomy Versus

Open Radical Retropubic Prostatectomy: Early

Outcomes from a Randomised Controlled Phase 3 Study

Yaxley JW, Coughlin GD, Chambers SK, et al

Lancet 2016;388:1057

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Expert's summary:

Yaxley and colleagues

[1]

reported 3-mo results from the first

prospective, controlled, randomised phase 3 study comparing

robot-assisted laparoscopic prostatectomy (RARP) to open ret-

ropubic prostatectomy (ORP). They enrolled 326 patients in 4 yr.

However only 151 and 157 patients assigned to ORP and RARP,

respectively, proceeded to surgery. The study was conducted in

Australia and the most experienced open and robotic surgeons

were selected to perform the procedures. The RARP surgeon had

completed 200 robotic prostatectomies at the beginning of the

trial, while the ORP surgeon had performed 1500 operations. At

the end of the study, the RARP and ORP surgeons had performed

1000 and 2000, procedures respectively.

Baseline and postoperative questionnaires were used in

both groups to evaluate pain, urinary function, sexual

function, positive surgical margin rates, intraoperative

adverse events, and postoperative complications. The results

showed that the two techniques were equivalent in terms of

functional outcomes. The authors concluded that longer

follow-up is needed to find significant differences and they

encouraged patients to choose an experienced surgeon.

Expert's comments:

This study allows comparison of not only two different techni-

ques for radical prostatectomy but also two surgeons with

different characteristics and experience: a young post-residency

robotic surgeon and an experienced open surgeon

[1]

. The

difference between the two is considerable. However, the qual-

ity of the open surgery reported warrants comment.

Lymph node dissection with a mean of 3.26 lymph nodes

retrieved, operating time (OT) of 280.37 min, and mean

blood loss of 1338.14 cm

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are not within the standard range

for an experienced surgeon

[2]

. Therefore, an average rather

than a skilled ORP surgeon has been compared to a young

RARP surgeon. The main message is that a young urologist

who has performed 200 RARPs can obtain the same early

functional and oncological results as an experienced ORP

surgeonwho has performed sevenfoldmore ORP procedures.

The learning curves for RALP and ORP have been

reviewed by Abboudi et al.

[3]

. The variables included in

their calculations were OT, mean estimated blood loss (EBL),

positive surgical margin (PSM), complication rate, length of

hospital stay (LOS), transfusion rate, early continence, and

potency. Their systematic review of 44 studies revealed that

the number of open procedures needed to significantly

reduce OT, EBL, PSM, and complication rates ranged from

250 to 1000 cases for OLP, compared to 100 cases for RALP

[3]

. The results reported by Yaxley et al seem to confirm that

the learning curve is shorter for RALP than for ORP.

Costs are always mentioned as a negative factor for

robotic compared to open surgery, and this can influence

the decision-making processes of health care systems at

both hospital and country levels. However, the question we

should pose is how much money can be spared if a young

urologist can perform a good standard operation in less time

with a shorter teaching programwhen compared to an open

surgeonwho needs a greater number of procedures to reach

the same skill level. This calculation has never been

performed, and the article by Yaxley et al induces us to

consider this issue.

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